I don't have a tube tester, so I don't know if any of the old tubes we're bad.
I did not notice anything modded or out of order. The innards looked pristine, and untouched.
UPDATE:
Hey everyone. I put a whole new set of JJs in the amp and set the bias at 37.2.
While it does sound better, there is still something very wrong.
The only way I can get close to good Marshall sound is on the beast mode with the preamp and master almost dimmed.
Just playing it normal...
Well dang guys, I was excited at first because the amp does sound a lot better, but I've had time to really scrutinize it now, and I have to say while it does sound a lot better, there is still something wrong. What, I don't know. When I started this thread, I should have told you the whole...
I'm no amp tech, but for what it's worth, have you ever changed out the preamp tube? If not, maybe it's finally wearing out after 10 years of use.
I've had similar sounds by having a bad guitar cable.
Maybe the tube socket is dirty also.
There is a section of the forum called the...
Well the amp sounds 'way' better than before, and sounds really good to my ears. I'm very pleased over all. I may keep the bias setting where it is for a bit, but I think I may like it a bit hotter; say up to 38.
I want to play it enough before I tweak it higher so I'll have a solid grasp on...
DING DING DING! We have a winner!
When biasing the JCM 800KK the probes have to be on the two center tubes. Now the adjustors are adjusting as would be expected!
I have the two sides dialed in at 37.2 mA. I'm going to check it again in 15 minutes to see if it holds.
I'm so happy right now...
Here is where I got the idea to remove the tubes to check plate voltage. See second post. :wow:
http://www.marshallforum.com/marshall-amps/19826-checking-plate-voltage.html
I now have the two bias probes placed on the middle two tubes, and she's warming up. Hopefully my theory about where the pairs are placed is correct.
Any thoughts on this Martystrat54? Do you think I'm headed in the right direction? I guess I'll know soon enough.
I have to say I'm have an...
Photos: Notice the configuration relationship between the tube and board.
http://sidewinder.smugmug.com/Electronics/Misc/i-Ns7pnC4/0/X3/2013-03-17_19-46-31_447-X3.jpg
It must be paired the way I'm suggesting. Just look at the layout...
4 Brand new matched JJs from The tube store. They all said 44 on the tube boxes. I took it, that indicates matched, as I ordered them.
Do you think maybe the problem is the tube positions on the board are paired differently as mentioned above. Also thank you for all the help here!
25/470x70
37.2 bias is what I'm getting.
I'm starting the think one of the bias probes might be located incorrectly.
I was told in my other thread to locate them side by side and to one side because the two outside tubes are paired together and the two inside tubes are paired together.
My...
Okay, tubes are in, warmed up.
Pin 3 @ V101 tube is 470vdc pin4 @ v101 tube is 466vdc
Pin 3 @ v102 tube is 470vdc pin4 @ v102 tube is 461vdc
I'm running a digital bias probe. I checked bias just to see where they were with the new tubes @ the old bias setting. V102 was way high 67 and...
Thanks! Ya, I can Dig lol!
This is why I'm asking, I want to be sure at what I'm doing.
I read in a different thread at this forum today that for the most accurate plate voltage measurement, one should pull all power tubes and measure at pin 3 with power and standby on.
I'm not clear if...
With the tubes out at pin 3 I'm getting 513 VDC.
With 25watt dissipation:
25/513x700(70%) = 34.1 for bias setting.
With 35 watt dissipation:
35/513x700(70%) = 47.7 for bias setting.
I measured plate voltage with tubes out, black to chassis, but I stuck the red into the topside pin 3...
The title say it all.
In the thread I started on biasing my JCM 800 2203kk members are giving me formulas saying to figure 25 watts for dissipation.
I just stumbled onto a different suggested dissipation for KT-88 tubes which is what the JCM800kk uses.
Is it 35 watts or 25 watts?
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