Alowerdeep
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Anyone ever have any luck getting a dsl to come close to matching high gain tones of the vintage modern?
Dsl and vintage modern
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I have both. The DSL has more gain on it's Ultra Channel than the Vintage Modern in High Range, whether that extra gain is usable though is a matter of opinion. 
Joe2000
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No, I didnt. Thats why I have both 
VM is more spongier.
VM is more spongier.
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Joe2000
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Both amps have the 'Marshall' sound.
DSL is voiced similar to other Marshalls - JCM800, JVM, JCM900 etc...follows that line of amps.
Vintage Modern is very different. In my opinion you will struggle to get the DSL to sound like the Vintage Modern. The KT66's give that amp such a different feel.
DSL is voiced similar to other Marshalls - JCM800, JVM, JCM900 etc...follows that line of amps.
Vintage Modern is very different. In my opinion you will struggle to get the DSL to sound like the Vintage Modern. The KT66's give that amp such a different feel.
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The Ozzk
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I have both. The DSL has more gain on it's Ultra Channel than the Vintage Modern in High Range, whether that extra gain is usable though is a matter of opinion.
This.
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You started off with an impossible task!
the whole point of ALL PRODUCT is to make the item perform the intended task of the maker.
they make a list of what they want the product to do and then they go about making the object do what they want it to do.
you come along and say you want the IMPOSSIBLE.
Sorry it's your idea and you stick with it. I'm not going to waste my life on that idea.
Marshall didn't tell you what the DSL did.
guys have spend a decade trying to workout what the sound actually was.
They told everybody what the VM did.
so that's it! game over! watch the video, cause that's all it does.
They told us all that they took the thing which they never told anybody (maybe they thought most of us were educated in hearing sounds, but most users have no idea what they're listening too) and then they built the VM around the old speakers.
Basicly they made the new sound with MORE 'bite' to each note across the fingerboard, and put it into the old speaker sound.
We're all suppose to know that the old sound from the old speakers was a dull burry note kinda sound. Low quality it was!
The modern sound was clearer, sharper, better.
you'll notice that newer TV's sound is this way too.
You were ALL suppost to DUMP the old amp setup and play the Vintage Modern with it's crisper sound.
BUT once again the reputation out there ruined that situation from happening.
people are 'thickheads'. slow to grasp onto the latest and greatest item.
the whole point of ALL PRODUCT is to make the item perform the intended task of the maker.
they make a list of what they want the product to do and then they go about making the object do what they want it to do.
you come along and say you want the IMPOSSIBLE.
Sorry it's your idea and you stick with it. I'm not going to waste my life on that idea.
Marshall didn't tell you what the DSL did.
guys have spend a decade trying to workout what the sound actually was.
They told everybody what the VM did.
so that's it! game over! watch the video, cause that's all it does.
They told us all that they took the thing which they never told anybody (maybe they thought most of us were educated in hearing sounds, but most users have no idea what they're listening too) and then they built the VM around the old speakers.
Basicly they made the new sound with MORE 'bite' to each note across the fingerboard, and put it into the old speaker sound.
We're all suppose to know that the old sound from the old speakers was a dull burry note kinda sound. Low quality it was!
The modern sound was clearer, sharper, better.
you'll notice that newer TV's sound is this way too.
You were ALL suppost to DUMP the old amp setup and play the Vintage Modern with it's crisper sound.
BUT once again the reputation out there ruined that situation from happening.
people are 'thickheads'. slow to grasp onto the latest and greatest item.
Alowerdeep
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oh yeah, most of the sounds can sometimes seem real convincing.
I was convincing myself tonight playing a epiphone with DiMarzio's and a Solid State marshall amp jamming along to Ted Nugent Cat scratch fever.
And AC/DC ballbreaker!
I was impressed by the sound. BUt I could hear there were some big differences in the comparison.
But that was all the hardwares fault, not my fault!
I was convincing myself tonight playing a epiphone with DiMarzio's and a Solid State marshall amp jamming along to Ted Nugent Cat scratch fever.
And AC/DC ballbreaker!
I was impressed by the sound. BUt I could hear there were some big differences in the comparison.
But that was all the hardwares fault, not my fault!
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Never tried a VM...but I sure want to one of these days
Alowerdeep
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They are cool for sure.....but I got a very similar tone from my dsl50 in the od1 setting so I sold it....the dsl has a better clean for switching as well,so I stuck with it.....but l liked it alot
The Ozzk
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Alowerdeep
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I know it is a one channel amp.....hence the reason I kept the dsl.....I was able to tone match the vm with the dsl od1setting and since it had a nice clean channel to boot I sold the vintage modern and bought a budda
