Guys, I'm new to the forum, and I have some questions about tonal differences, and variations of different 50 watt Marshalls with similar circuits.
I found this clip: [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jxwnjgQS0w]YouTube - 1973 Marshall 50 Watt Demo[/ame]
This is THE TONE I consider one of the best - classic AC/DC, Malcolm Young etc. But, not quite cleaned up enough for me.
There's a very clear separation in each note while he plays - despite the amp's volume being at 8. From what I've read, Malcolm Young has said that he rarely turns his amps up past 4 on volume.
Next, this Granger M50 Plexi — listen to the Granger M50 sound clips http://grangeramp.com/m50.php
Not the You Tube clip below it.
This amp also sounds great, but I find that the harmonic content isn't as smooth or separated as in the first 73' 50 watt clip. I wanted to know, what imparts that "machine grinding" distortion sound? - Which I DON'T like. It sounds too over-driven, where the chords don't have string separation. Instead, when a D chord is played, you don't hear all the notes in the chord, but rather you hear the root note "D" on the D string, then a harmonic D - 1 octave higher. It sounds a bit "80's" metal to me - and I don't like that sound.
Mal's tone is much more articulated, separated and on the cleaner side. Is this just the way they pushed the amp, or will different components like transformers, and Sprague Orange caps VS Sozo's make a difference?
I'm just trying to understand the nuances and differences between these 2 of amps that have the same circuit. I'm tired of hearing clips where all these guys do Eddie Van Halen - machine roaring tones. - The chords and articulation of the notes are lost in the severely over-driven sound. Often what I hear is this, "Chonka-Chonka, thug, thug sound. No jangle, no dynamics, just over crunch.
Can someone please explain what governs the balanced sound of the harmonic content in the older 73' Marshall VS the Granger? Or is it just the settings that each clip used?
Even if you listen to Pro Guitar Shop's demo of the 50 watt 1987X, [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR3Os80p0u4[/ame] it doesn't sound as rich or full to me as the first 73' clip.
Please shed some light on the subject. Thanks.
I found this clip: [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jxwnjgQS0w]YouTube - 1973 Marshall 50 Watt Demo[/ame]
This is THE TONE I consider one of the best - classic AC/DC, Malcolm Young etc. But, not quite cleaned up enough for me.
There's a very clear separation in each note while he plays - despite the amp's volume being at 8. From what I've read, Malcolm Young has said that he rarely turns his amps up past 4 on volume.
Next, this Granger M50 Plexi — listen to the Granger M50 sound clips http://grangeramp.com/m50.php
Not the You Tube clip below it.
This amp also sounds great, but I find that the harmonic content isn't as smooth or separated as in the first 73' 50 watt clip. I wanted to know, what imparts that "machine grinding" distortion sound? - Which I DON'T like. It sounds too over-driven, where the chords don't have string separation. Instead, when a D chord is played, you don't hear all the notes in the chord, but rather you hear the root note "D" on the D string, then a harmonic D - 1 octave higher. It sounds a bit "80's" metal to me - and I don't like that sound.
Mal's tone is much more articulated, separated and on the cleaner side. Is this just the way they pushed the amp, or will different components like transformers, and Sprague Orange caps VS Sozo's make a difference?
I'm just trying to understand the nuances and differences between these 2 of amps that have the same circuit. I'm tired of hearing clips where all these guys do Eddie Van Halen - machine roaring tones. - The chords and articulation of the notes are lost in the severely over-driven sound. Often what I hear is this, "Chonka-Chonka, thug, thug sound. No jangle, no dynamics, just over crunch.
Can someone please explain what governs the balanced sound of the harmonic content in the older 73' Marshall VS the Granger? Or is it just the settings that each clip used?
Even if you listen to Pro Guitar Shop's demo of the 50 watt 1987X, [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR3Os80p0u4[/ame] it doesn't sound as rich or full to me as the first 73' clip.
Please shed some light on the subject. Thanks.