Help Me Identify, Please...

[shanepwrs]

I ordered this cabinet online from Guitar Center thinking it was a 1960. I'm relatively certain now that it is not, but I don't know what it is. The ID plate on the back is too mutilated to read. I'm far from an expert, the only identifying factor I can see from the photos are the 4 "cups" for the amp feet to sit in. 1960's seem to all have 2 rectangle bases instead of cups. I called the store it is shipping from and the employee was only able to tell me it is stamped "Made In Vietnam." The only cabinets I can find that have 4 "cups" and are made in Vietnam are the MG series.

Can anyone help me figure out what I've bought??

 

[fitz]

I ordered this cabinet online from Guitar Center thinking it was a 1960. I'm relatively certain now that it is not, but I don't know what it is. The ID plate on the back is too mutilated to read. I'm far from an expert, the only identifying factor I can see from the photos are the 4 "cups" for the amp feet to sit in. 1960's seem to all have 2 rectangle bases instead of cups. I called the store it is shipping from and the employee was only able to tell me it is stamped "Made In Vietnam." The only cabinets I can find that have 4 "cups" and are made in Vietnam are the MG series.

Can anyone help me figure out what I've bought??

VS412?

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[DreamerDeceiver]

What 35w spkr did they jam in there?

 

[Matthews Guitars]

Looks like an 8412. The small foot cups match, as does the close speaker spacing. It's obviously one of those "compact" 4x12 models.
Always look at the spacing between speakers. On a 1960 or other full size cabinet, there's about 4 inches of space between the speakers, and you can see it through the grill cloth if the light angle is right. On a compact cabinet like an MG412 or an 8412, the frames are almost touching and the space between the baffle cutouts is barely 2 inches.

 

[shanepwrs]

What 35w spkr did they jam in there?

Unknown until it arrives. I will update for inquiring minds on Friday.

 

[shanepwrs]

Thanks everyone for your replies. I'm thinking this thing is going back to Guitar Center before it even arrives. The "Marshall Lead 412" listing title lead me to believe that the $300 price tag was a good deal on a cabinet that is cosmetically wrecked. Based on these replies, it seems like $300 would be a fair price for a cosmetically "good" cabinet, and an overpayment for the condition it is actually in.

 

[Georgiatec]

Thanks everyone for your replies. I'm thinking this thing is going back to Guitar Center before it even arrives. The "Marshall Lead 412" listing title lead me to believe that the $300 price tag was a good deal on a cabinet that is cosmetically wrecked. Based on these replies, it seems like $300 would be a fair price for a cosmetically "good" cabinet, and an overpayment for the condition it is actually in.

Made in Vietnam would be MG cab. VS cabs are from the '90's and were built at Bletchley.
VS412 or MG412 isn't worth $300, no matter what condition it's in. I bought an MG412 a few years ago for 30 GB Pounds, sold the speakers for a tenner each then gave the empty cab to a mate who put G12T-75's in it and loves it.
Moral.....worth buying for next to nothing to put decent speakers in.

 

[Dogs of Doom]

Thanks everyone for your replies. I'm thinking this thing is going back to Guitar Center before it even arrives. The "Marshall Lead 412" listing title lead me to believe that the $300 price tag was a good deal on a cabinet that is cosmetically wrecked. Based on these replies, it seems like $300 would be a fair price for a cosmetically "good" cabinet, and an overpayment for the condition it is actually in.

these cab's aren't even worth that, brand new...

they are scamming, if they are trying to sell that for a used 1960 cab used price...

 

[Jimi-C]

I ordered this cabinet online from Guitar Center thinking it was a 1960. I'm relatively certain now that it is not, but I don't know what it is. The ID plate on the back is too mutilated to read. I'm far from an expert, the only identifying factor I can see from the photos are the 4 "cups" for the amp feet to sit in. 1960's seem to all have 2 rectangle bases instead of cups. I called the store it is shipping from and the employee was only able to tell me it is stamped "Made In Vietnam." The only cabinets I can find that have 4 "cups" and are made in Vietnam are the MG series.

Can anyone help me figure out what I've bought??

That's a VS 412 with 35 watt speakers in it , I have one , it's two inches shorter and 2 inches less in width than a 1960 . I took out the 35 watt celestion speakers and replaced them with 2 ,8 ohm red backs and 2 Eminence 8 ohm Tonkers , for 600 watts total power handling, I love it and prefer it over my 1960s , I can crank up my duel rectifier with no problem at all , or I can be as quiet as a mouse at 1 am in my basement .

 

[shanepwrs]

Made in Vietnam would be MG cab. VS cabs are from the '90's and were built at Bletchley.
VS412 or MG412 isn't worth $300, no matter what condition it's in. I bought an MG412 a few years ago for 30 GB Pounds, sold the speakers for a tenner each then gave the empty cab to a mate who put G12T-75's in it and loves it.
Moral.....worth buying for next to nothing to put

 

[shanepwrs]

It is, indeed, an MG412. I'll be making the trip to Guitar Center to return it or get a couple hundred dollars back on Monday. Bummer. Thanks everybody for your input.

 

[crossroadsnyc]

It is, indeed, an MG412. I'll be making the trip to Guitar Center to return it or get a couple hundred dollars back on Monday. Bummer. Thanks everybody for your input.

The good news is that you can now continue your search, which is half the fun anyway!

 

[Tatzmann]

He tought it is a 1960...description seems only to say Marshall 412...i see no sellers fault here.

Cancel your order and search for a 1960cab, if thats what you want.

You seemingly caught it on time, shipping may still be cancelled.

Good luck.