Is it just me? DSL40C vs DSL40CR

[tmingle]

I'm going to do some downsizing & comparing the 40C to the 40CR, the 40C is a clear winner here. The 40CR sounds really grainy to my ears.
I bought the CR with some bonus points that I needed to use before I retired last summer & never really compared them.

 

[Leonard Neemoil]

The CR/HR models sound like garbage imo. Then again, I don't play music newer than 1990 lol.

 

[tmingle]

The CR/HR models sound like garbage imo. Then again, I don't play music newer than 1990 lol.

70's & some 80's for me.

 

[tmingle]

I even added a bright cap to the CR (470pf/off/100pf). I had this thing on the scope under load for a couple hours to make sure it was functionally OK. I may try to roll some preamp tubes to make sure they aren't the problem. Then it shall be gone.

 

[Leonard Neemoil]

I even added a bright cap to the CR (470pf/off/100pf). I had this thing on the scope under load for a couple hours to make sure it was functionally OK. I may try to roll some preamp tubes to make sure they aren't the problem. Then it shall be gone.

Well good luck, but I think it's just the nature of the beast...more modern voice compared to the not as modern voice of the C/H.

Let us know how it works out please.

 

[TheKman76]

I've modified mine quite a bit and it sings. Mostly bright caps, and removing a valve and attenuator circuits.
Personally I don't feel the stock V-type speaker suits it either. Something heavy magnet which chokes off the fizzy stuff well works better for me. Creamback H and Swamp Thang are nice.

 

[Georgiatec]

I never owned a 40c, but both my 402's (CR), sound good to my ears (which admittedly, are getting more fucked these days).

 

[mike58]

I went through the same process with a DSL5C v DSL5CR… no comparison , the CR was just not in the same ballpark.

 

[Joeleoj]

I thought my 40cr was just really ok for years. Got a shocked hair one day, chopped it into a head and put it on top of a 1922 and fell in love with it! Sold it to a buddy who needed a small touring rig three years ago he still uses it

 

[dryz41]

Yeah i turned my combo to head too. With 4x12 cab it is great now

 

[Elliot Twist]

I have 3 Marshall DSL40CR 1X12 combos. I love mine.
One for rehearsal on top of a Marshall 1966A. Everything is Stock speakers.
It sounds incredible, but it's VERY loud, because that how I want it.
Our rehearsal aren't for the "lighthearted." Not at all. I can't wait until the next rehearsal.
https://www.marshallforum.com/attac...and-marshall-1966a-2x12-slant-cab-jpg.131582/
I'm actually thinking about loading a 2X12 or 4X12 with the V-Type speakers, we like them a lot.
I actually love my Marshall Dsl40CR 1X12 combos.
I have a Marshall DSL100H and a Marshall DSL100HR.
Both 100w heads sound good to me. I had the C19 toggle switch put on the 100H and I don't care about it.
I like the original sound of the 100H, but don't play it much anymore.
We take the 2 DSL40CR 1X12 combos to venues that complain about volume.
It doesn't help because we're a very loud band and the 40's are cranked louder than 100w heads and 4X12 cabs.
Plenty of amps don't sound great unless they're too loud, and I'm OK with that.

 

[Karl Brake]

I'm going to do some downsizing & comparing the 40C to the 40CR, the 40C is a clear winner here. The 40CR sounds really grainy to my ears.
I bought the CR with some bonus points that I needed to use before I retired last summer & never really compared them.

The four voicings of the CR are nice, and I found that the bass response was much better with the R. I've just had the dsl and dslhr 100, but the tone is the same as the combo. I found the newer R version superior, especially with a band. And it has external biasing.

 

[EL34Norge]

It's not just you. I've had both and currently have 2 40C's. The 40CR is a great amp. The 40C has a bit more magic going on. I did the C19 clip mod and the 40C's EQ is in line with both channels.
I have a DSL100H for large venue's.
The 40C and 100H are well balance amps and still have an open/raw sound to them..
And very Marshall sounding with the midrange cranked..

 

[atstrother]

I agree. For my tastes DSL40C > DSL40CR. I often find that less complicated circuits sound best, in amps and pedals. To be fair I like
a little hair on my cleanish tones, so I don't miss the 4 switchable modes. I mostly play 70's rock and just found the DSL40 with pedals to sound more classic and punchy. I like the vtype speakers as well and find they work well with my JCM2000 dsl50. Run a Creamback65 with my dsl40c. All good.

 

[Dozer]

I'm going to do some downsizing & comparing the 40C to the 40CR, the 40C is a clear winner here. The 40CR sounds really grainy to my ears.
I bought the CR with some bonus points that I needed to use before I retired last summer & never really compared them.

This was my experience also when I tried a CR after owning a C for a long time. Now that I am using the 100w HR into a 4x12 of G12T-75's though, it's not the case. I definitely like the HR compared to the H I used to have. Don't get me wrong I still think the H is a fantastic amp but my experience with the HR is much better for whatever reason.

 

[thesunship]

This is interesting because the 40c amps are around 350-400 used locally. I notice the prices on reverb bottomed at about 300 a few months ago.

Just needs a new Johan Segeborn video and they'll go back to 700 used

 

[taylodl]

Based off the YouTube videos I've watched, people, including people who I think should know better, have no clue how to dial-in the DSL40CR. I think it's a shame too because it's the most versatile amp I've ever used and I've been playing for nearly 50 years!

 

[Roach]

I have a dsl-401 Made in England, an find this useful in case I want a back up, I love the 401, and hope I can keep it. I need a light for the switches so I can remember to turn it off correctly. Already addressed the BR problem. Thanks for the info.

 

[Whizzercone]

I had a DSL40C. I think the previous owner had put a creamback in it. It was pretty good, but sold it and went with a ToneX/Magnum 44. More options and actually small enough I can take all that and my JVM with me without spraining a testicle.

 

[Sully6790]

I even added a bright cap to the CR (470pf/off/100pf). I had this thing on the scope under load for a couple hours to make sure it was functionally OK. I may try to roll some preamp tubes to make sure they aren't the problem. Then it shall be gone.

It's not just you. I've had both and currently have 2 40C's. The 40CR is a great amp. The 40C has a bit more magic going on. I did the C19 clip mod and the 40C's EQ is in line with both channels.
I have a DSL100H for large venue's.
The 40C and 100H are well balance amps and still have an open/raw sound to them..
And very Marshall sounding with the midrange cranked..

I’m wanting to do c19 mod but worried I’ll be missing the high end when it’s cranked and compressed. You find it sounds as good with the gain high?