Kahler Users?

[Deftone]

I had a Kahler Traditional on my '86 Charvel.


I have about eight Floyds now...I prefer Floyds.

That said.... I think the Ibanez ZR has them both beat.

 

[fitz]

Kahler Flyer on my Hondo Pro II DC.
Not a fan of the trem bar location on a FR.
Got 2 axes with a FR and prefer the Kahler.

 

[Dblgun]

I am a big fan of the Kahler 2500 series and still have a few guitars that were made with them. The guitars I have with Floyds are nice as well but have always been higher maintenance.

 

[mark123]

I know a lot of people didn’t like Kahler because they had their bumpkin guit-fiddle “luthier” install them. Then they’d claim it took all the sustain away. You gotta recess it into the body 90% of the time.

Oops, already posted the HM Strat on pg 1...

It’s a good’un. Post away!

 

[mark123]

I have a Kahler Pro on a Washburn N1. I think the Kahler cost more than the actual guitar.


I also have one on my Washburn A-15V but it’s apart right now. It’s been refretted, which makes it need a new nut and I stripped it down and plan to repaint it and I got new Lollars for it so I have to cut a new pickguard and …

 

[jmp45]

I know a lot of people didn’t like Kahler because they had their bumpkin guit-fiddle “luthier” install them. Then they’d claim it took all the sustain away. You gotta recess it into the body 90% of the time.


It’s a good’un. Post away!

My 90 HM Strat..

 

[mark123]

Hey, what the heck? I saw that on page 1.

 

[Deftone]

My '86 Model 2 came with a Kahler. I swapped in a Floyd.



IMHO the Floyd guitars stay in tune better than the hard tails. Once you know how they work and how to set them up they are pretty easy.

The Ibanez ZR trem incorporates some features from the FR and the Kahler. It pivots on roller bearings and it's mounted to the body, so it's very smooth and height adjustments do not require loosening the strings. The screw on the Low E side behind the pivot bearing is a removable Intonation tool. It also has a thumb wheel spring adjuster on the back.



https://ibanez.fandom.com/wiki/ZR#Discontinued

 

[Deftone]

I love that you can pull up as far as down. They take some tweaking, maybe that's why some don't like them...

Exactly. I liked the up and down range as well as the boing effect it easily produced.

A flush mounted Floyd can be pulled up and down. Top mounted Floyds can only dive bomb.

 

[TheLoudness!!]

This thread is relevant to current interests.

I'm thinking of getting a guitar with a Kahler flyer on it. I've had a couple of Floyd Rose tremelos and I simply do not care for them.

Full disclosure. I am a hardtail or fixed bridge guy. I would like to own one tremelo equipped guitar though for certain effects.

I heard most Kahlers wouldn't hold tune because of the springs being worn out? But are fine with the right setup? I guess that could be said about any guitar though.

My other option is that I noticed that Kahler makes a drop in fixed bridge. As in no modification that fits in factory route. This could be another option...

Very curious about teflon glass rollers and a brass cam.

 

[mickeydg5]

A flush mounted Floyd can be pulled up and down. Top mounted Floyds can only dive bomb.

OK.
Why are you quoting me?
You do realize this was in reference to Kahler and I said nothing about Floyd.

By the way all my Floyds were flush type and could "boing" but not as well as Kahler.

 

[Deftone]

OK.
Why are you quoting me?
You do realize this was in reference to Kahler and I said nothing about Floyd.

By the way all my Floyds were flush type and could "boing" but not as well as Kahler.

Because I like you and I want you to talk to me.

 

[mickeydg5]

Because I like you and I want you to talk to me.

Is your avatar you on a bike or just a random picture?

I once had a R1, 165hp and actually did 165mph on it. But I am not a racer.

 

[Deftone]

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Is your avatar you on a bike or just a random picture?

I once had a R1, 165hp and actually did 165mph on it. But I am not a racer.

Yes, my R6 at Sonoma (AKA Sears Point). Funny, I had an R1 I topped out at 165 as well. My GSXR1K pulled 175.
(Laguna Seca)


The R6 was my favorite track bike though.....(Sonoma)

 

[Relic61]

Quick & Suddenly.. the mechanical discussions of the Kahler Tremolo evolved into the wondrous technological advancement & speed of Yamaha motorcycle engineering!!
It Happens folks!

LOL

Not a Yami but back in the 80's, I hit 135-6-7-8-9?? (stopped looking) mph on my V-45 Magna while laying totally horizontal on the bike (ala Freddy Spencer) with my feet over the rear lights when.. I suddenly developed severe front end wobble & seen my life flash before my eyes! I then realized, after (thankfully) safely coming to a stop, not only did I want to keep on LIVING but.. I needed to change my undies!
But that wasn't enough to give it up. It took a high speed police chase (adverted capture btw) to get me to realize I was NOT responsible when riding a motorcycle! &, that f^@k'n bike had to go!

 

[Redguitar]

The 2 charvel guitars in my sig pic have the kahler bridges. These stay in tune so very well for me.

 

[mickeydg5]

Yes, my R6 at Sonoma (AKA Sears Point). Funny, I had an R1 I topped out at 165 as well. My GSXR1K pulled 175.
(Laguna Seca)
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The R6 was my favorite track bike though.....(Sonoma)
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I did not top out, I backed off...............Louisana interstate highway you know. That is scary shit.

I almost thought about tracks but I just enjoyed riding. I did the "Dragon" several times but never made any record.

 

[Deftone]

I did not top out, I backed off...............Louisana interstate highway you know. That is scary shit.

I almost thought about tracks but I just enjoyed riding. I did the "Dragon" several times but never made any record.

Yep. I took mine to 165 and let off, same with the GSXR at 175. I have an FZ-10 (MT-10) now. Big Bang R1 motor in a Standard. I still take it to the track. It had a governor that wouldn't let me go past 150 but I had it re-flashed. Sonoma in Oct 2022....

 

[mark123]

Anyway …

 

[SkyMonkey]

The 2 charvel guitars in my sig pic have the kahler bridges. These stay in tune so very well for me.

Is the middle one a Model 4?

If so, that's the one that started it all off for me!
Metallic purple.
I wish I could get it back