That twangy sound...?

[mercilessdeath86]

That twangy sound...? METAL HEADS! HELP!

So I recently got myself a new 6100LM head. great amp and I love it... but for some reason I can't get that... twangy sound (For lack of a better word).

Metal players, you must know what I mean. Old Chuck shuldiner and Kreator fans gotta know what I'm talking about.

Anyway, I had a marshall MG100HDFX and I could get this sound with it, also I just used a valvestate combo which could get it very well.

I don't know. If you have any idea of what I'm talking about fill me in. Maybe I just need new tubes or I'm not cranking it enough...

 

[stock_hippie]

you are a lucky guy with that amp....wish i could just dream about a 6100!!!

 

[Shawn Fate]

when i think of twang i dont think of death, i think of a fender tele.

 

[mercilessdeath86]

hmm... Let me think of an example. You would probably be the person to understand what I mean....

YouTube - Death - Denial of life (Live 1988)

Ok, this at 0:44 seconds. It is very brief but you can hear it. It's also through out the whole video.

I need that evil sound.

 

[mercilessdeath86]

bump

 

[Shawn Fate]

Death used Marshall Valvestate amps, a 8100 if i remember correctly, the VS line was replaced with the MG line of amps, the sound you are hearing is pretty much how those solid state amps sound.

 

[mercilessdeath86]

Yeah I know... That's what I was thinking at first too. But then I remembered Death didn't start using valvestates until around '92 or so. That clip was from '88.

 

[rockinr0ll]

boost mids, even bass/treble

 

[spacerocker]

If my amp ever starts to sound like that, I'm selling it!

 

[rockinr0ll]

lol I was just watching a bunch of demos for a death metal pedal.... I think the culprit for the sound is bad amps because all the demos I watched sounded exactly like that video. I do really like that genre but the guitarist in me (not the listener) could never put up with that tone.

 

[mercilessdeath86]

Are you guys kidding its phenomenal.

 

[WrenchDevil6]

Keep in mind that tone is subjective and not something that could be argued to an end between any two people.

People like it or they don't.

 

[mercilessdeath86]

Yeah what sounds great to some sounds like shit to others.

Regardless if it sounds like shit or not, is there any way to get that out of my 6100LM?

 

[rockinr0ll]

Fair question and I was just saying I couldn't have that tone for myself but I like listen to bands with it... kinda an oxymoron but whatever

I think I no what you want, It just sounds like tons of treble and low bass try this and tell me what you think.

Gain 9 (very high)
Bass 3 (sounds like there is barely any bass and sounds thin)
Treble 9 (tons of gain and treble)
Mids 2 (scooped)
No Effects (dry/no reverb)
Get a distortion pedal or 2

It might not sound good at first but I think that basically whats going on with the black metal tone. The other settings I set is what I use for metalcore sound.

 

[ToneZone100]

I would have thought that using something like a Boss metal zone pedal thru the amp and an eq in the loop would make it easily acheivable.
If it's correct that they use solid state amps then you could rely on the gain of the pedal and run the amp relatively clean to get that sound. I have to say it is a little hard to hear as it's a live mix going thru youtube sound quality.
It wouldn't be my choice to use a 6100 that way but if that what floats yer boat matey then more power to ya!

 

[HOT TUBES 70]

Yeah what sounds great to some sounds like shit to others.

Regardless if it sounds like shit or not, is there any way to get that out of my 6100LM?

i have the same amp and i can get some serious evil tone from it !!!!
and no pedals !!!!