800 prices continue to tumble...

[Adrian R]

Been on Reverb lately? I have been closely monitoring used Marshall prices, and while the pre 800 2204/03s seem to be holding steady, the 800s continue to drop...as well as other Marshalls. I'd say be patient...early to mid next year they could be returning to near pre-Covid pricing

 

[67mike]

 

[NumbSkull]

Yup, I just bought a JCM 600 head on Ebay UK for less than £200.
Good condition, sounds great.

Let the kids play with their modellers and digiknobs,
We can enjoy the vintage classics with culture and history.

 

[tallcoolone]

Yup, I just bought a JCM 600 head on Ebay UK for less than £200.
Good condition, sounds great.

Let the kids play with their modellers and digiknobs,
We can enjoy the vintage classics with culture and history.

 

[Resident 217]

Yes they geting lower where there are lots around as more folks need the coin and price to sell. It seems are as usual those with money are scooping them up putting them on reverb for the long haul I guess. The prices have been way too high for all but the finest examples for years.

 

[V-man]

2019-2021 threw crystal ball predictions out the window and made “artificial upon artificial” conditions that obscure predictability, but there are things to glean that suggest this too is a finite window.

The glut of my shit acquired post-HS was 2009-11. This was the wake of the 2008 crisis and the music bubble bursting. Deals were to be had as demand for all shit plummeted. It’s no secret we are circling the toilet bowl economically and a repeat performance of 2008 (if not far worse) would hardly be surprising.

We KNOW 2020 was a bubble. Isolation (and stimulus) created sharper demand for hobby shit and supply chain issues killed supply. However, something parallels that bubble: the gross incompetence and/or deliberate scheme to crash the western economy.

Used Marshalls and Gibsons did not go up alone. Gas has doubled costing transport of everything, causing higher prices. Eggs doubled. Beef went up $1-2 per pound. New Epis regularly break $1,000 and Gibson USAs break $2,000. On one hand, you can’t put the ‘82 2204 between two pieces of bread and as such, shit like this is the first to be liquidated… On the other hand, if Gibson USA is not going back to $1K USAs and $1,500 Epis are becoming the new normal, how much sense long-term is an $850 JCM 800 going to make when the new CONTINUES to list well over $3K and the Studio version lists double that?

In short, the most desperate and overstocked will cause the dip in the short term, but that will eventually stabilize and stay high when the world has begrudgingly accepted $12-$15 drive thru meals as the new standard among everything else. You can’t continue to shit on how high the hobby numbers are in perpetuity while simultaneously embracing what the supermarket and drive thru dictates.

 

[6StringMoFo]

 

[tallcoolone]

You can’t continue to shit on how high the hobby numbers are in perpetuity while simultaneously embracing what the supermarket and drive thru dictates.

Yet here we are lol

 

[cjs42079]

PAS is running a nice Marshall "open box" sale at the moment. New JTM20 combo $1,258 amongst other things

 

[Deftone]

FWIW Reverb isn't the best place to monitor prices, IMHO. They lie about sold prices and most of the asking prices are extremely over inflated. I'd watch CL and FB Marketplace in various markets as well.

Not disagreeing with the OP though. I check all the time as well and stuff that isn't price really low isn't moving. There's deals if you are looking.

 

[Resident 217]

Simple there's just too much stuff.
A search of Canada on one of the lesser buy/sell sites "Kijiji" of "Marshall" in musical instruments reveals nearly 900 listings.
That is a lot! Marshall can only compete by having high prices for new ones. Its like an ascending spiral.

marshall in Canada - Kijiji Canada

Find marshall in Canada - Buy, Sell & Save with Canada's #1 Local Classifieds.

www.kijiji.ca

 

[Adrian R]

It should be noted that all amps and guitars are dropping in price. It's variable though, some more than others. Either way, and for now anyway, that price gouging insanity appears to be over.

 

[NumbSkull]

It is very odd.
The prices things are selling for just dont make sense, not just guitars but torches, tools, and many other things.
One theory I have is its a deliberate Chinese plot to destroy western manufacturing capability,
They saw it worked with steel and now they are extending it to electronic goods,
They subsidise the loans for building new factories to create jobs, this helps to depress the currency so exports stay cheap.
They know they are dumping stuff at less than cost but it keeps their population busy and when it comes to building a massive drone army they will be miles ahead.
Maybe I am a bit paranoid after watching too much Canadian Prepper but normal does not compute.

 

[Joesatch]

for some reason all the awesome deals are sellers in greece or turkey etc. even with shipping $100-$200 . Buy those?

 

[NumbSkull]

Sure, Turkey is very cheap for plastic surgery and kidney transplants too.

 

[scozz]

Sweetwater, MF, Zounds, etc., have recently lowered the prices of some new Dsl’s by $100.

New DSL’s, sooo,…

 

[thesunship]

Guitars are next

 

[Plexitim]

One principle I have seen proven true again and again: collectible and discretionary spending like guitars and amps always follows housing by 6-9 months. So when you see a slowdown in home sales, guitar and amp prices will follow.

Buy it because you love it. Then it does not matter what the market does or where the value goes. Just my .02

 

[TheLoudness!!]

Guitars are next

I hope so!

I'm still waiting for a deal on one I been after.

 

[NumbSkull]

There seem to be massive risks in Geopolitics atm that will affect gear prices.
Will someone bomb Iran or Saudi putting oil prices to $300 and adding huge costs to shipping ?
Will USA sanction China ending the flow of cheap guitars ?
Will the global recession mean that no one has time or money for expensive guitars leading to massive drop in demand ?
Will China's desperate attempts to avoid recession lead to massive subsidised overproduction of guitars ?
Is AI music the next big thing ?

It seems to me it could go either way , the swings could be huge and its impossible to predict.