I need a speaker recommendation

[Nuts]

Hello everyone !
I have a 2X12 Marshall 1936 cab that has 2 celestion G12T75.
When I play guitar solos on the distortion channel- the high notes sounds thin with too much high end
I want to change one of the speakers to something with less treble than the G12T75
I don't know anything about speaker models, and what wattage or ohms does it need to be
So what speaker would match a 2 X 12 cab with one G12T75 ?
Thanks !

 

[maico996]

Are your T75s old or new? I ask because I have some cabs with T75s from '87 and '84 and they don't sound thin at all. Brighter when compared to my cabs with G12-65s from '82 and '84, but definitely not thin.

 

[fitz]

Hello everyone !
I have a 2X12 Marshall 1936 cab that has 2 celestion G12T75.
When I play guitar solos on the distortion channel- the high notes sounds thin with too much high end
I want to change one of the speakers to something with less treble than the G12T75
I don't know anything about speaker models, and what wattage or ohms does it need to be
So what speaker would match a 2 X 12 cab with one G12T75 ?
Thanks !

Stock speakers in the 1936 are 16 ohm, so you want to get the same impedance if you want to replace just one.
The 2 x 75 watt speakers give the cab a 150w power handling capacity.
Replacing one of the speakers with a different power handling value will result in the cab being rated at 2 x the lower value of the two.

As to what speaker is going to give you the tones you are after depends on a lot of factors.
Your guitar, pickups, effects and amp are all part of the tone that comes out of the speakers.

 

[EADGBE]

How about a Vintage 30?

 

[tallcoolone]

From what I have here from most to least bright: Creamback M or H really. H is punchier. Avatar Fanes. Emi Delta Pro cast frames, EV12L. Id stay away from V30s and G12H30s if you think the 75s are too bright.

 

[Nuts]

Are your T75s old or new? I ask because I have some cabs with T75s from '87 and '84 and they don't sound thin at all. Brighter when compared to my cabs with G12-65s from '82 and '84, but definitely not thin.

yea, maybe thin is not the right word...I'm looking for something darker
I'm not sure how old they are, I bought them 2nd hand, 10 years ago

 

[Nuts]

Stock speakers in the 1936 are 16 ohm, so you want to get the same impedance if you want to replace just one.
The 2 x 75 watt speakers give the cab a 150w power handling capacity.
Replacing one of the speakers with a different power handling value will result in the cab being rated at 2 x the lower value of the two.

As to what speaker is going to give you the tones you are after depends on a lot of factors.
Your guitar, pickups, effects and amp are all part of the tone that comes out of the speakers.

Thank you !
Yea of course, everything matters in the signal chain.
it's just sounds brighter than another cab that I have and love, So I'm trying to improve it

 

[FleshOnGear]

Creamback M65

 

[Geeze]

Holler at @Scumback Speakers - Jim has a wide range of Celestion clones in multiple wattage ratings and has a great questionnaire for helping with getting you the right fit.

Russ

 

[fitz]

it's just sounds brighter than another cab that I have and love, So I'm trying to improve it

Um..., well..., what's in the other cab?

 

[DreamerDeceiver]

Creamback 75 m or h
Edit
65 /75 m h

65 is more v30 and gb feel.
75 is a smidge brighter than the 65
To my ears

 

[solarburn]

Redback. Especially for soloing. Shore up that thinness for sure. Won't lower wattage capability and can take a beating.

Not to be negative but Creambacks set back too much. I like a ballzier up front sound.

 

[Maxbrothman]

You would think speakers that old would have broken in so I can only imagine what they must have sounded like new. I would say Greenbacks would help but Marshalls and ear-slicing seem to come with the territory with some models in some environments.

Good luck in your search to tame the high-end. A good quest.

 

[Nuts]

Um..., well..., what's in the other cab?

So the other cab used to be a Marshall TSL JCM2000 122 combo, but I removed the amp, and now it's just a cab.
It has two different speakers, which is why I also want my 1936 cab to have two different speakers.
it has 'Marshall G12 Vintage Celestion' and 'Marshall G12 Heritage Celestion'

 

[fitz]

it has 'Marshall G12 Vintage Celestion' and 'Marshall G12 Heritage Celestion'

Ah, supposedly a great speaker pairing - not available retail except in the JVMC212 (I think...)
I have a G12 Heritage (16 ohm) I pulled from my JTM30.
Put those speakers in the 1936, and put the T-75's in the TSL combo/cab conversion.

 

[marshallmellowed]

I personally don't care for G12-75's. They have a good low end, but are also a bit mid-scooped with an annoying high end sizzle (at least, to my ears). Replacing one of them with a Creamback or Greenback would help, but if it were mine, I'd replace both of them.

 

[mickeydg5]

So the other cab used to be a Marshall TSL JCM2000 122 combo, but I removed the amp, and now it's just a cab.
It has two different speakers, which is why I also want my 1936 cab to have two different speakers.
it has 'Marshall G12 Vintage Celestion' and 'Marshall G12 Heritage Celestion'

I have four TSL JCM2000 2x12 open back cabinets. They are awesome with the Vintage and Heritage combo.

 

[crossroadsnyc]

I have a 1936 w/G12T75's, and "thin" would be the last description I would ever use. Admittedly, I'm one of the few here on the forum that loves them, so maybe take what I say with a grain of salt. Seriously though, it's a badass cabinet.

 

[mickeydg5]

I have a 1936 w/G12T75's, and "thin" would be the last description I would ever use. Admittedly, I'm one of the few here on the forum that loves them, so maybe take what I say with a grain of salt. Seriously though, it's a badass cabinet.

I like them and have some of the little brother, 1922 cabinets.
They mix well with the JCM2000 TSLC212 and Silver Jubilee Vintage speaker combo setups.

 

[Central Scrutinizer]

I have a 1936 cab that originally had The G12T-75s as well.
They were not to my liking for the same reason you expressed.

They were replaced with a Warehouse ET-65, and a Warehouse Veteran 30, 60 watt model. This pairing did bring down the maximum wattage for the Cab. from 150 watts to 120/125 watts, so there is that.

To pair up with one of your G12T-75s, I would go for the ET-65 and try that.

They are an excellent blend of speakers and handle everything from Kossoff, Green, Metallica , Scorpions to Texas Blues.

Plus they are slightly cheaper than Celestions, which I have and love in other Cabs.

Good luck in your quest.