Suggested cab for 410h??

[MarshalAmpUnusedAccountS]

Hi guys (and girls) so im collecting my first jvm410h tomorrow, i put a deposit down on a jvm205c but i cant settle for it, i have to have the 410h.

Anyways, i will probably buy a new cab next year. I was wondering if I could get some suggestions from the lovely community here!

I will be playing anything from blues to metal and everything in between. I was thinking something with a vintage 30 voicing maybe??? Well i dont know so thats why i came to you guys for suggestions, im open to all suggestions.

Thanks!!
Kind regards, Sean.

 

[SG~GUY]

something with GREENBACKS, or a greenback v30 mix

 

[The Ozzk]

Greenbacks

 

[MarshalAmpUnusedAccountS]

something with GREENBACKS, or a greenback v30 mix

Awesome, thanks!!

 

[MarshalAmpUnusedAccountS]

Greenbacks

Another greenback suggestion, i guess that solves it, thanks very much!

 

[mulletmule]

Greenbacks!!! 1960AX but watch your master volume as it's only 100 watts. Nothing will sound better. If money is an issue a regular 1960A will work.

 

[BeardedRetroGuy]

I got a regular 1960A with G12T-75s. Sounds pretty bad-ass to me. If you are buying direct speakers, don't get Greenbacks. Get Creambacks so that you get roughly the same sound but can handle the amp at full-power.

 

[Ken]

I was thinking something with a vintage 30 voicing maybe??? .

Then why not get a 1960 AV? Any cab will go well with a 410H although they'll all be different.

Ken

 

[maxxi]

I have both a 1960AV and 1960B cab.

the vintage 30's sound really nice and tight with OD2(orange or red mode) and a descent amount of gain. great for modern metal.

the 12t-75's sound more rounded, and in my experience sound great with the OD1(orange mode) channel. great for hard rock, 80's metal,classic rock.

interesting fact: the JVM series were designed using a 1960a cab with t75 speakers in it. so if you based your purchase of a youtube demo or from Marshall's site and like that tone, i would go with a 1960A or B cab.

but of course, this is MY opinion

feel free to PM me if you have any questions

 

[mulletmule]

I did a comparison between my 1960A (75's) and 1960AX (greenback 25's) last night. Both sound great with the JVM410H. The greenbacks have more midrange but the 75's certainly don't lack mids. I'm thinking of mixing the 2 next time I record.

I also agree any of the 4 suggested would be fine. If money is a concern a standard 1960A with 75's is the most economical and the market is flooded with them!

 

[John BNY]

I run my JVM 210H through T75s, and I really like the tones I get.

 

[avspecialist]

I've had my JVM since 09, generally I build my own cabinets an I make them from Baltic Birch, closed back, to the same dimensions of a Marshall cab. With my JVM 410, I have tried many speakers from 1980 EVM 12L's to different Celestions and JBL's and Eminence.

The most unlikely combination after years of experimenting, leaving different combinations in the cabinet for a couple of months, was 2 Eminence Red White and Blues on the top wired in series and 2 vintage JBL's MI12 in series on the bottom. The cabinet I built has a Marshall speaker switch, so I can select either the Eminence or the JBL's or put all the speakers in series or paraell. Usually I set them for the 8 ohm setting, which is the Eminence wired in series together, the JBL's wired in series together and each combination in paraell for the 8 ohm load. I can now go from Fender cleans to Marshall distortion. I have found this unlikely combination takes me from the Beatles to Black Sabbath. Also, I really like this combo with my original 69 SG Custom.

Also, I have moded the amp slightly, by doing a negative feed back mod and some gain stages mods and played around with different tube brands and bias adjustments. From my experimenting this speaker combination has hit the nail right on the head and so far has lasted the longest, a little over a year. Also it wasn't too expensive also!

 

[SG~GUY]

not so fast my friend!

like millions of others,..i have been using just 4-25w GREENBACKS with a 100watt head forever!!,...never blown a speaker,...never an issue!,..

how many times have ya seen two 100w MARSHALL heads on two old -(GREENBACK loaded)-cabs?

I got a regular 1960A with G12T-75s. Sounds pretty bad-ass to me. If you are buying direct speakers, don't get Greenbacks. Get Creambacks so that you get roughly the same sound but can handle the amp at full-power.

 

[mulletmule]

not so fast my friend!

like millions of others,..i have been using just 4-25w GREENBACKS with a 100watt head forever!!,...never blown a speaker,...never an issue!,..

how many times have ya seen two 100w MARSHALL heads on two old -(GREENBACK loaded)-cabs?

Rock On Brother

 

[Pat6969]

not so fast my friend!

like millions of others,..i have been using just 4-25w GREENBACKS with a 100watt head forever!!,...never blown a speaker,...never an issue!,..

how many times have ya seen two 100w MARSHALL heads on two old -(GREENBACK loaded)-cabs?

True, you are more likely to fry a voice coil with not enough power rather than too much!

 

[Micky]

True, you are more likely to fry a voice coil with not enough power rather than too much!

Please explain how you think this happens?

 

[Pat6969]

Please explain how you think this happens?

If you use too little power one tends to push the power amp section into clipping which overheats the voice coils = not good.

More power runs cleaner at higher levels since you don't have to crank it and won't overheat the coils = good.

I'd have no worries taking a 50 watt head and running it to a Greenback all day long. How many times have you turned your 100 watt head up to 10?

Good?

 

[Micky]

If you use too little power one tends to push the power amp section into clipping which overheats the voice coils = not good.

More power runs cleaner at higher levels since you don't have to crank it and won't overheat the coils = good.

I'd have no worries taking a 50 watt head and running it to a Greenback all day long.

I have also been running a 1W amp into a 150W speaker for years with no problems. You may want to re-check your math...

 

[Pat6969]

I have also been running a 1W amp into a 150W speaker for years with no problems. You may want to re-check your math...

Do you usually crank that 1 watt head to 10 and play for 3 hours? You might want to try it!

 

[Pat6969]

I have also been running a 1W amp into a 150W speaker for years with no problems. You may want to re-check your math...

Oh, and no math involved. Just electrical theory. Read up on it, it's pretty interesting.