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After playing my JCM800, I sold my Kemper

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Mess away. I don’t like to brag, but I can say with total confidence that I’m probably the least accomplished player on the board.

Yah but if it keeps you playing use it. I'll bitch slap myself cause I think I'm so smart!
 

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@solarburnDSL50

Cool bud, no offense taken. I've been playing for 25 years now, been in a lot of bands from rock, hard rock, metal, industrial all as lead guitarist or lead guitarist/vocalist. In my current band I am not the guitarist but the singer but I do miss the axe on stage though. I am also Head of IT for a large Finance company and specialise in corporate contracts, infrastructure, technical architecture and cyber security along with many other aspects so I am very technically minded.

No ill will to you too mate. I just don't want the thread derailed as its interesting to me. People on this thread have defended tubes, digital, Kemper and Fractal in a very pleasant manner.

Take care mate.

Merry Christmas and much respect considering the topic. :D
 

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sorry to say, that’s not always the case, like I mentioned I had punters that know nothing about amps, who liked our sound better, and it had nothing to do with misic or how we played, they just mentioned the guitar sound.

To non-musos, aside from music and performance, its all about the punch and impact of the moment, and in this case Valve amps always have the upper hand over digital. Nothing to do with tone, just punch and impact. True story.

I've got one amp I don't boost for punch. The others I do cause the Fucking builders are so ugly they can't find a suitable BE. Profile this.
 
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That is what I figured. It sounded like a very nice in the room recording.
What model phone are you using? Where are you placing your phone to capture the sound?
I have an Android and it always auto turns on some crappy compressor or limiter which makes it sound like a$$ unless you play very quietly.
Were you playing at a high volume?
 

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I've got one amp I don't boost for punch. The others I do cause the Fucking builders are so ugly they can't find a suitable BE. Profile this.

send it over, I'll profile it! :)...

I want to do my buddy's firebreather too.

His is a 4 holer mod'd to 3. He only ever has the gain set to about 4-5 & it's got the most gain on any amp. It also, even though is has gobs of gain, doesn't sound compressed or thin at all.

You recorded that w/ you phone?

That's your best sounding recording (that I've heard). Probably doesn't do the amp justice though.

In this type of discussion, you could argue that after playing the "Hammer" all your DSL's & such are merely toys... :)...
 

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send it over, I'll profile it! :)...

I want to do my buddy's firebreather too.

His is a 4 holer mod'd to 3. He only ever has the gain set to about 4-5 & it's got the most gain on any amp. It also, even though is has gobs of gain, doesn't sound compressed or thin at all.

You recorded that w/ you phone?

That's your best sounding recording (that I've heard). Probably doesn't do the amp justice though.

In this type of discussion, you could argue that after playing the "Hammer" all your DSL's & such are merely toys... :)...

It truly is a hammer. The gain was mild compared to what I could have unleashed. But you know I don't go there. The amp has 3 voicings. One of which is Badlands Jake E Lee. 800.
 

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Evening all

So the first request was to upload a bit of music so here you go:

I have literally just written this in the last 2 hour or so and with that in mind please excuse any mistakes you may hear. The left guitar is a JCM800 clean boosted with a GT-OD, the right guitar JVM on OD Amber unboosted. The small lead sections are also the JVM on the same settings.

Guitars used are a Les Paul Classic and a Jackson Soloist.

None of the tracks are reamped or edited its just a take of me playing the sections. All using the Two Notes Reload (JCM) and Captor (JVM) and the Wall of Sound software with 1 stock IR (v30) and one I purchased (GT75).

There is no post production apart from a low cut on all guitars around 80htz and a stereo delay on the lead, that is it.



Please remember this is not a skill test, its a sound sample.

I wish I had the time to dig out an old Kemper track.

Mike
 

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You've got a 4x12 inside an iso box. You've got a mic on each speaker (4 mics). These were each placed in the optimal position, which you determined through a process of experimentation.

You run speaker and mic cables back to your control room (5 total), where your amps are. You plug the speaker cable into any one of them (not time consuming).

You are running vintage Marshall and Celestion gear at high volume, monitoring comfortably from your control room.

Congratulations! You are now entering the promised land.

It may be the promised land for people who are interested in chasing after that last little percentage of guitar tone, but that's not a motivating factor for what I do in my home studio. Probably 70% of the songs I come up with are birthed on the piano, and the guitars tend to play more of a supportive role than a dominant one.
 

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I own both a Marshall and Kemper, and I agree. Practice with tube will improve your playing, technique and overall ear.

Which I then apply to recording with Kemper.

That's how I use and benefit from the best of both worlds
I find I have a hard time playing anything but power chords since I got my lil dsl. Was working at triads and such, put me in front of my dsl and umm OK, power chords it is
 

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@Frodebro

I suppose for you it's the equivalent playing a grand piano and a Roland immitatiom. The Roland's do sound great, but the real thing sounds amazing..... Although the practicalities of owning a real piano are probably far more limiting.
 

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