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janarn

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f you wan't to use your Super Lead for a good vintage sound try this:

Get a good 4x12" cab with G12H's or G12M's, and get an attenuator.
That amp will sound really good at volumes from 6 to 8, bass and precence
close to 0, middle at 8, and treble at 5.
Turn down the volume on your guitar to get a clean sound,
and use a "clean-boost" for leads.

A "vintage sound" is the combination of distortion from your preamp,
your output stage, and the speakers.

You wont get that with a 300w cab, or your amp volume at 3.
 

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i dont have money for a new cab and attenuator yet. im working but wont be able to buy one till next year. how bad will the tone be on a 300w?
 

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hmm so i think for me vintage 30s would be best, id rather greenbacks but id blow them
 

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But they still call 'em Vintage 30s?
So whats the story?, Were the old originals actually rated at 30 watts, but at some point they were improved to handle 60w, and stayed that way?

Actually..... I have no idea! :lol: I thought they were 30 watts myself until I looked into getting a custom cab a few years ago. Also the Mode Four 280 cab has Vintage 30s that are 70 watts each. :confused:
 

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what do you mean speaker distortion. one thing i love about my amp is how the natural distortion comes in at volume 1: 2 or 3. will that go away? i like to boost my leads ever so slightly to get that sustain i like.

Lower wattage speakers can add their own distortion, especially with a higher wattage amp. My 50 watts into a 320 watt rated chain of speakers will be a whole lot cleaner than into a 100 watt chain when the volume is cranked.


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i found a couple on craigslist for less but im really fed up with craigslist. ill try there but it seems most are just scams.

Just off the topic for a minute, but can you elaborate?
What scams have you seen. I would think that craigslist is no more risky than any other classifieds? I know ebay is frustrating with people with speed-dialers (speed networking now) out bidding me by one dollar, 30 seconds before the auction ends, or schills driving the price up, then I get a "2nd chance" the next day, etc.
 

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But they still call 'em Vintage 30s?
So whats the story?, Were the old originals actually rated at 30 watts, but at some point they were improved to handle 60w, and stayed that way?

Vintage30 speakers were introduced in '86. They were rated 60w from Celestion,
but Marshall rated them 70w when they started using them.(280w cabs)

So Vintage30 is not vintage speakers, or a RI of a vintage speaker.
And it's a mystery why they were called Vintage30.

You will not get the "vintage distortion" from those speakers
if you don't use a 200w amp turned up all the way, without an attenuator.

The V30 speakers and the G12T-75 is something completly different
than the low wattage vintage speakers G12H and G12M.
 

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craigslist has so many scams its just mind bloggling i have to say that theres less now but at a time where i was looking to buy a guitar every ad which i was interested in there was a scam.
 
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