TwinACStacks
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HA! I might not have been born/raised in the south but y'all better believe southern runs in my blood and is where 1/2 my family originated from.
Jon's two Uncles were in the Pig scene from "Deliverance"....
TWIN
HA! I might not have been born/raised in the south but y'all better believe southern runs in my blood and is where 1/2 my family originated from.
Somehow I missed this thread first time around. Being a big fan of both the Vintage Modern and Sozos, it is very interesting. Tell you what though; IMHO my Vintage Modern sounds so good stock, I don't want to touch it. I was even nervous to take the chassis out of the wood for months (finally did and checked the bias, it was spot on). It was improved with NOS British and US preamp tubes (helped with clarity and smoothness).After coming back to this ancient thread I started so long ago, it really cracks me up. I view the internet the same as my jobs. I don't go to work to make friends, if I do, I consider it a bonus. I post only for information purposes.
Sozo caps are widely used by so many making stellar amps. I don't know how to make an amp, but my ears know difference in dynamic sounds. These caps absolutely will improve your VM beyond what you thought possible. It's like getting mad at the mention of Mercury Magnetics just because their reputation has put them at top of list for many.
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mr. wilder,
just looking at your signature shows how much of a pompous windbag you truely are. you are so stuck on your ideas and concepts that you can't allow your customers to make choices? what if i was your customer? i guarantee you i could ask some not so stupid questions. not that it really affects what i do from day to day, but you are burning someone nonetheless... could possibly be a potential customer but very doubtful after you torch them in front of everybody.
i think the reason you don't offer some of those things is that maybe they are too much for you to implement into your own (?) designs. there are some boutique builders around who offer whatever the customer wants... you may have to take the fine details out of their hands, and guide them with parameters but they usually come back when they feel like they have gotten what they wanted the last time they dealt with the builder/tech. i am one of these builders. i build what the customers want, usually one of my circuits with whatever add-ons they want. seems a very different than your brute-force tactic. besides, if they want an amp where they have no design choice, why not just go to guitar center and pick out the amp that has the features they want... people have done this for years. what makes your limited circuits so special? i can't even see your website right now so i cant really tell. i will check back later just out of curiosity.
as far as sozo caps are concerned... have you ever built two amps with identical circuits, one with sozos and one with whatever caps you usually use? i doubt it? the original poster at least had the opportunity to sample the original caps as opposed to just the sozos... and i'm not surprised he heard a difference and would recommend them. i don't think you have even tried them. maybe so but you seem too stuck on your opinion of what is best. i say this too, there are more amps out there that could have a noticeable increase in beautiful tone by subbing in the exact same values of sozos that are in them now. and i speak from experience. i have an amp right now that has all sozos in the signal path. i would be willing to bet that it sounds better than anything you have built. i would be willing to meet up with you and and let a group of people decide. i have had numerous players ( at least 5, and the amp is only 1 1/2 months old... many players to come) with an average of 30 years experience each that have said this is the best amp they have ever heard, period. i guess they are all just stupid and i should tell them all that on your behalf.
those people contacting you with "dumb" add-ons are probably just trying to improve your amp... not that it is bad to begin with, but if your customers are asking for things you are not doing, maybe they are in essence opening wider the door of opportunity. are you so sure of yourself that you don't need to learn anything new? or are you just too tired of learning or not capable of it? i don't think so, but there is a point to be made: if you and i both built the same amp, i would sell more than you simply because of a difference in attitude. maybe you treat your customers better than the original poster. maybe your customers should see how you can be toward what is supposed to be your peers.
i know you are not an idiot... but even geniuses can come off as assholes sometimes.
the offer stands... the gauntlet has been thrown down.
contact me if you like, we could set something up. just a warning though, prepare to eat crow, its usually ok with barbecue sauce.
btw... i use sozos as my default caps, others are used upon request, even though I DON'T LIKE THEM!
the customer is always right, RIGHT?!?
tony
. i am one of these builders. i build what the customers want, usually one of my circuits with whatever add-ons they want.
dorrisant said:i am one of these builders. i build what the customers want, usually one of my circuits with whatever add-ons they want.
Jon,
A question for you: have you ever used sozo caps in one of your builds? If not, then you should probably let someone who knows about them to answer the question, because they might know more about them.
dorrisant said:If you let the customer make some of the design decisions (within your parameters) they tend to feel like they are more of a part of it, which I have found gives good results. So yes, the customer and the builder/designer can both be quite happy. Maybe not in your case. You seem to have issues with both happiness and communication.
Tony
FWIW, IMHO, the Marshall NMV tone is in: Sozo signal caps except for ceramic bright and treble tone stack caps. The ceramic is important as it sounds aggressive but not too bright. Micas are too smooth and hi-fi in those locations. Use a mica cap between the plates on the phase inverter.You guys still beating up 40watter?
I always thought the SOZOs were for older style circuits such as the NMV Marshalls.......but who really knows.
Twin.......do you still have/use your SOZO & Silver Mica - 2204 amp? http://www.marshallforum.com/marshall-amps/22999-best-marshall-you-heard-2010-a.html