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Marshall 30th Anniversary Series thread (6100 / 6101)
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Seventh Son
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I am curious as to what you think of the Balanced Compensated Out for recording? Do you have any tips for getting the best tones out of it in the context of recording and in the mix?
SloJimFizz
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Recently traded for a 6101 combo in the purple tolex with the EV12L speaker in it. Thanks to those who contributed to this thread, helped make pulling the trigger an easy decision. Plus the dude had it set nicely when I picked it up.
Really like this amp, having several Mesa Marks, this was right in my wheelhouse of form and function. The stock EV12L is a nice speaker, but a/b'ing with my Creamback 65, the CB just sounded and felt better to play through. I'll more than likely swap those two, lighten the load just a bit at the same time.
Some learning curve to some of the buttons. The darn loop button got me. Played with my board hooked up, rocking out. Put everything away, use a different amp for a couple days. Next time I plug in the 6101, nada. Couple tube swaps and rereading the manual later to finally realize the simple loop button being pressed in was the culprit.
Fantastic amp with so many great sounds in it. The Contour button is most certainly not a tone suck button Can definitely tell this was their shot fired at Mesa.
Obligatory pic:
Really like this amp, having several Mesa Marks, this was right in my wheelhouse of form and function. The stock EV12L is a nice speaker, but a/b'ing with my Creamback 65, the CB just sounded and felt better to play through. I'll more than likely swap those two, lighten the load just a bit at the same time.
Some learning curve to some of the buttons. The darn loop button got me. Played with my board hooked up, rocking out. Put everything away, use a different amp for a couple days. Next time I plug in the 6101, nada. Couple tube swaps and rereading the manual later to finally realize the simple loop button being pressed in was the culprit.
Fantastic amp with so many great sounds in it. The Contour button is most certainly not a tone suck button Can definitely tell this was their shot fired at Mesa.
Obligatory pic:
Thoma
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Can't say much about recoding but used Balanced Out directly into the FOH mixer and we were very happy with the sound.
Definitely more consistent and reliable than picking up a speaker w/ a SM57.
Thoma
Active Member
Exactly!!!
THIS remark about CONTOUR makes you an 6100 Expert.
(Plus your TMOHOLBBE (* of course!)
The red channel has so many beautiful tone possibilities, provided one reads the manual or, even better, turns the knobs of its tone stack after pressing CONTOUR.
*(
(Tearing My Own Hear Out Loop Button Blackout Recovery Experience.)
I bet there's a new goal, right?
Seventh Son
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Do you guys think it'd be possible to send a DSL through the 6100 and then use 6100's Balanced Compensated Output to record the DSL? I know this is a bit of an unconventional idea, but I am exploring it for purposes of experimentation.
Mike_LA
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Where are you going in to the 6100?
The front end, the FX loop, the line input?
Seventh Son
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I'm thinking of using the DSL's preamp, into the 6100, and than tapping the processed signal from the BCO for recording. I am not sure whether that is possible, and if yes, what would be the best way to do that.
Mike_LA
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Ok, still not clear on what you are trying to hear.
The preamp out of the DSL into where, on the 6100?
Into the front will give you massive gain, if that's you want. Then you can record off of the line out jack. Other than that, using the line in the power amp or FX loop won't sound much different.
Don't know what a BOC is, Back Of Cabinet?
The preamp out of the DSL into where, on the 6100?
Into the front will give you massive gain, if that's you want. Then you can record off of the line out jack. Other than that, using the line in the power amp or FX loop won't sound much different.
Don't know what a BOC is, Back Of Cabinet?
Seventh Son
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I was thinking of using the DSL as a preamp, with the DSL’s Send into the 6100’s Line In, power amp on the 6100 silenced, and then use the 6100’s Balanced Compensated Output to record the DSL silently. Something along those lines. Not sure whether it would work.
Mike_LA
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Ah I think I get it now. I thought the DSL had a silent recording out. Which model are you working with, looking at the manual I don't see a preamp out. If you do have a preamp out then it should record straight into your daw. The line out from the 6100 is just the preamp bypassing the power amp so the same as the preamp out on the DSL.
I think it would work, but if you have a 6100 why use the DSL? I can those tones out of my 6101.
I think it would work, but if you have a 6100 why use the DSL? I can those tones out of my 6101.
Seventh Son
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The idea is to connect the DSL20’s fx loop Send to the 6100 Line In, and use the Balanced Compensated Output on the 6100 to record the DSL. The goal is to be able to compare the 6100 preamp sound to the DSL20 preamp. By running both through the same recording tool (the BCO), I hope to keep as many variables as possible controlled, so I can compare just the preamps of each amp and see how they differ, but also which settings on one can get close to the other.
Mike_LA
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Yah, should work.
Let us know.
Let us know.
